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Re: Somali National Army (SNA)

Post  Kobooz on Wed Nov 23 2011, 09:37

Come on crane! Kenya to lease guns for an occasion? How did you even reason like that?

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Re: Somali National Army (SNA)

Post  Olekoima on Tue Feb 21 2012, 18:56

Kobooz wrote:Come on crane! Kenya to lease guns for an occasion? How did you even reason like that?

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Re: Somali National Army (SNA)

Post  mogen on Fri Aug 10 2012, 14:29

Once mighty, Somalia’s army struggles to rebuild itself

As hundreds of Somali army recruits march haltingly around a dusty parade ground on the outskirts of Mogadishu, Ugandan officer Assa Mutebi admits that sometimes his job can feel a little strange.

Mutebi, the “patriotism instructor” for the 2,000-odd recruits who have just returned from a year of European Union-funded training in Uganda, is responsible for teaching the fledgling soldiers to love their own homeland.

“I teach them about.....

Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2012/Aug-10/184071-once-mighty-somalias-army-struggles-to-rebuild-itself.ashx#ixzz238pcNoaP

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Re: Somali National Army (SNA)

Post  Batian on Mon Aug 20 2012, 18:12

Ole man has rearmed his iron gauntlet warning any clique that may disembark from their zones to destabilize somali peace and political resolution. It seems somalia disintegration had proved costly for kenya. I would wonder where we would be at the NFD, ECONOMICALLY. A stabilized NFD will give the much required mode for existence once a political solution post TFG in mogadisho is finalized.

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Re: Somali National Army (SNA)

Post  jasiri on Thu Sep 20 2012, 19:24

Somalia, finally on the go, crawling to a new future. Lets talk re-armament for the SNA. What equipment do we think they may go for? What countries do we think will train and arm them? Their Navy, Air Force, Army... Can we keep up? Interesting times coming ahead.Somalia to get $10million Coastguard ship

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Re: Somali National Army (SNA)

Post  mogen on Fri Sep 21 2012, 04:51

jasiri wrote:Somalia, finally on the go, crawling to a new future. Lets talk re-armament for the SNA. What equipment do we think they may go for? What countries do we think will train and arm them? Their Navy, Air Force, Army... Can we keep up? Interesting times coming ahead.Somalia to get $10million Coastguard ship

@Jas

In Somalia the word 'turki' has come o me someone who helps the needy. Thro' the Turkish Crescent Society and other agencies the Turkish govt has actually succeeded in endearing themselves to the people of Soomaaliya. A friend in need is a friend indeed. Methinks, the $10million patrol boat is just a sign of things to come. By venturing where others shied from, Turkey has positioned itself to be a longterm development partner of Somalia. By extension, their NATO allies might piggyback and supply arms/training to the fledgling SNA.

Woo and Russia may be the losers in this. They may be asked ''where were you in our times of need?".

What is puzzling is the fact that EU and everyone else knew that the answer to the piracy problem was on land. Somalia needed an administrative solution and pirates would have no base to operate from. Yet they were unwilling to spend a fraction of their millions to stabilize the country. What a shame!!!

Besides fish, some of the big players [Britain and Woo may be foremost in this] may supply weapons and training in exchange for mining rights. AMISOM may end up standingby as the vultures circle to sample the killing.

Eastern Africans must protect and nurture this baby. Train their security forces, teachers, health profesionals,agricultural experts, engineers etc. we must be involved and help bring Somalia to its past glory. The task of rebuilding what was once a thriving country is enormous but it can be done

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Re: Somali National Army (SNA)

Post  jasiri on Fri Sep 21 2012, 11:17

mogen wrote:
jasiri wrote:Somalia, finally on the go, crawling to a new future. Lets talk re-armament for the SNA. What equipment do we think they may go for? What countries do we think will train and arm them? Their Navy, Air Force, Army... Can we keep up? Interesting times coming ahead.Somalia to get $10million Coastguard ship

@Jas

In Somalia the word 'turki' has come o me someone who helps the needy. Thro' the Turkish Crescent Society and other agencies the Turkish govt has actually succeeded in endearing themselves to the people of Soomaaliya. A friend in need is a friend indeed. Methinks, the $10million patrol boat is just a sign of things to come. By venturing where others shied from, Turkey has positioned itself to be a longterm development partner of Somalia. By extension, their NATO allies might piggyback and supply arms/training to the fledgling SNA.

Woo and Russia may be the losers in this. They may be asked ''where were you in our times of need?".

What is puzzling is the fact that EU and everyone else knew that the answer to the piracy problem was on land. Somalia needed an administrative solution and pirates would have no base to operate from. Yet they were unwilling to spend a fraction of their millions to stabilize the country. What a shame!!!

Besides fish, some of the big players [Britain and Woo may be foremost in this] may supply weapons and training in exchange for mining rights. AMISOM may end up standingby as the vultures circle to sample the killing.

Eastern Africans must protect and nurture this baby. Train their security forces, teachers, health profesionals,agricultural experts, engineers etc. we must be involved and help bring Somalia to its past glory. The task of rebuilding what was once a thriving country is enormous but it can be done
Why do i get the feeling we are already late into the scene? During Mahmoud's inaugration, not a single Kenyan soul was present! Is this how we welcome a new neighbour? Personally, i believe business can always be won back but if we fail to train the first Corp of SNA Officer Cadets then we might as well forget the whole of Somalia.

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Re: Somali National Army (SNA)

Post  mogen on Fri Sep 21 2012, 11:37

jasiri wrote:
mogen wrote:
jasiri wrote:Somalia, finally on the go, crawling to a new future. Lets talk re-armament for the SNA. What equipment do we think they may go for? What countries do we think will train and arm them? Their Navy, Air Force, Army... Can we keep up? Interesting times coming ahead.Somalia to get $10million Coastguard ship

@Jas

In Somalia the word 'turki' has come o me someone who helps the needy. Thro' the Turkish Crescent Society and other agencies the Turkish govt has actually succeeded in endearing themselves to the people of Soomaaliya. A friend in need is a friend indeed. Methinks, the $10million patrol boat is just a sign of things to come. By venturing where others shied from, Turkey has positioned itself to be a longterm development partner of Somalia. By extension, their NATO allies might piggyback and supply arms/training to the fledgling SNA.

Woo and Russia may be the losers in this. They may be asked ''where were you in our times of need?".

What is puzzling is the fact that EU and everyone else knew that the answer to the piracy problem was on land. Somalia needed an administrative solution and pirates would have no base to operate from. Yet they were unwilling to spend a fraction of their millions to stabilize the country. What a shame!!!

Besides fish, some of the big players [Britain and Woo may be foremost in this] may supply weapons and training in exchange for mining rights. AMISOM may end up standingby as the vultures circle to sample the killing.

Eastern Africans must protect and nurture this baby. Train their security forces, teachers, health profesionals,agricultural experts, engineers etc. we must be involved and help bring Somalia to its past glory. The task of rebuilding what was once a thriving country is enormous but it can be done
Why do i get the feeling we are already late into the scene? During Mahmoud's inaugration, not a single Kenyan soul was present! Is this how we welcome a new neighbour? Personally, i believe business can always be won back but if we fail to train the first Corp of SNA Officer Cadets then we might as well forget the whole of Somalia.

Was surprised no GoK official attended the inauguration. Sad indeed.

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Re: Somali National Army (SNA)

Post  Batian on Sat Sep 22 2012, 13:29

wrote:In Somalia the word 'turki' has come o me someone who helps the needy. Thro' the Turkish Crescent Society and other agencies the Turkish govt has actually succeeded in endearing themselves to the people of Soomaaliya. A friend in need is a friend indeed. Methinks, the $10million patrol boat is just a sign of things to come.

Eastern Africans must protect and nurture this baby. Train their security forces, teachers, health profesionals,agricultural experts, engineers etc. we must be involved and help bring Somalia to its past glory. The task of rebuilding what was once a thriving country is enormous but it can be done

The situation in Somalia should be handed very delicately..Quoting or terming Prospecting-for-minerals should begin once a strong political consensus between various local groups, clans and lobby groups is created. Those eyeing anything more than Somalia's well-being should not put the cart before the horse by hurriedly dashing to secure their long-term interests. If not its anarchism we have seen before will revert back to a worse state than before.

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Re: Somali National Army (SNA)

Post  Olekoima on Thu Oct 25 2012, 19:12

Somalia will require a robust military force of say 30,000 strong to take care of things once foreign forces withdraw. We do not want clan based forces or Al-Shabaab to take root again and mess up with everything after all the sacrifices made. We need to move on and focus on growing the economies of this region.

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Re: Somali National Army (SNA)

Post  Batian on Mon Oct 29 2012, 14:58

Since Somalia is divided into clans, I was of the Idea that all groups, be involved in reconstruction process. No clan or group should feel superior to any other clan. It is worth noting every foreign troop in Somalia must let the curtain fall once everything is made secure, the police force is assembled, and a reinforced SNA capable of ensuring security for Somalia.

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Re: Somali National Army (SNA)

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Re: Somali National Army (SNA)

Post  Olekoima on Sun Dec 23 2012, 14:53

tempest wrote:

It is claimed that this is so as a result of aggressive patrolling by NATO. Goodness, only NATO? Not even Russia, India or China? What about African contribution? Zero? Nkt!

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Re: Somali National Army (SNA)

Post  tempest on Sun Dec 23 2012, 16:04

Olekoima wrote:
tempest wrote:

It is claimed that this is so as a result of aggressive patrolling by NATO. Goodness, only NATO? Not even Russia, India or China? What about African contribution? Zero? Nkt!

I feel you bro ... ... the attitudes touches and has touched a lot of areas ... ... remember all the "discoveries" by the explorers when natives already lived there and even showed the the explorers the discoveries!

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Signs of The Times

Post  Spartan on Fri Jan 18 2013, 17:26

Mogadishu stadium has been repaired by FIFA, but it has gone through a lot since the fall of Siad Barre.

1992 - 1993, Sammy's playground


Captured by AMISOM



Then it briefly worked as an AMISOM outpost


The stadium this week



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Re: Somali National Army (SNA)

Post  aggressor one on Tue Jan 22 2013, 08:59

@spartan, the stadium that was repaired is a smaller stadium in the east of Mogadishu. The main stadium, whose photos you have posted here is still unrepaired. AMISOM forces are however due to leave it so that it is repaired too.

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Re: Somali National Army (SNA)

Post  Spartan on Tue Jan 22 2013, 09:11

aggressor one wrote:@spartan, the stadium that was repaired is a smaller stadium in the east of Mogadishu. The main stadium, whose photos you have posted here is still unrepaired. AMISOM forces are however due to leave it so that it is repaired too.

Thanx bro, I was surprised how fast it had been done coz the last time we haerd about the stadium, the Somali FA was asking AMISOM to leave. Sorry for the misleading pics

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SOMALIA OPPOSES KN DEPLOYMENT

Post  mchoraji on Fri Feb 15 2013, 11:05

Biting the hand that feeds you kind of;

A high-ranking Somali official told the United Nations Security Council on Thursday that her government does not want the African Union military mission in Somalia (Amisom) to be given a maritime component.

Kenya, the only African country deploying naval forces in Somali waters, has long sought UN approval of about $10 million (Sh870m) in funding for an Amisom maritime force.

Somalia’s statement on Thursday of "strong opposition" to that request is disappointing, said Kenyan UN Ambassador Macharia Kamau.

A naval force is needed, he commented, to "address the movement of Shabaab elements as well as their supplies."

"Somalia itself," Ambassador Kamau added, "does not have the capacity to control these elements."

The Somalia government's stand contradicts that of UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon.

In a report that was also brought before the Security Council on Thursday, Mr Ban said the 15-member body should "give serious consideration to the African Union request for an Amisom maritime component."

The UN leader added that naval forces are "critical to consolidate control over southern and central Somalia, in particular wresting control from al-Shabaab of the remaining coastal towns."

But Somalia's Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Foreign Affairs Fawzia Y. H. Adam told the council that there is "not a compelling reason to take the campaign against al-Shabaab to sea."

"Piracy, human trafficking and smuggling are important challenges," she added, "but are not linked to the mandate of Amisom."

Ms Adam said she wished to reiterate "our strong opposition to the maritime forces to be authorised for Amisom."

Ambassador Kamau said that while Kenya still hopes for UN support for its request, "we respect the right and prerogative of the Somali government to determine what kind of assistance they want to get."


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Re: Somali National Army (SNA)

Post  mogen on Fri Feb 15 2013, 11:44

@Mchoraji
What are they worried about?

mchoraji wrote:Biting the hand that feeds you lind of;

A high-ranking Somali official told the United Nations Security Council on Thursday that her government does not want the African Union military mission in Somalia (Amisom) to be given a maritime component.

Kenya, the only African country deploying naval forces in Somali waters, has long sought UN approval of about $10 million (Sh870m) in funding for an Amisom maritime force.

Somalia’s statement on Thursday of "strong opposition" to that request is disappointing, said Kenyan UN Ambassador Macharia Kamau.

A naval force is needed, he commented, to "address the movement of Shabaab elements as well as their supplies."

"Somalia itself," Ambassador Kamau added, "does not have the capacity to control these elements."

The Somalia government's stand contradicts that of UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon.

In a report that was also brought before the Security Council on Thursday, Mr Ban said the 15-member body should "give serious consideration to the African Union request for an Amisom maritime component."

The UN leader added that naval forces are "critical to consolidate control over southern and central Somalia, in particular wresting control from al-Shabaab of the remaining coastal towns."

But Somalia's Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Foreign Affairs Fawzia Y. H. Adam told the council that there is "not a compelling reason to take the campaign against al-Shabaab to sea."

"Piracy, human trafficking and smuggling are important challenges," she added, "but are not linked to the mandate of Amisom."

Ms Adam said she wished to reiterate "our strong opposition to the maritime forces to be authorised for Amisom."

Ambassador Kamau said that while Kenya still hopes for UN support for its request, "we respect the right and prerogative of the Somali government to determine what kind of assistance they want to get."

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SOMALIA official IS A JOKE

Post  countersniper on Fri Feb 15 2013, 14:15

this is a joke.
because KDF has succesfully stopped all routes for smuggling weapons to alshabab by properly deploying its navy now this so called high ranking somali official says they dont need kenya navy.
this is nonesense
KDF should ignore the guy and just do its job

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Re: Somali National Army (SNA)

Post  mchoraji on Fri Feb 15 2013, 16:06

countersniper wrote:this is a joke.
because KDF has succesfully stopped all routes for smuggling weapons to alshabab by properly deploying its navy now this so called high ranking somali official says they dont need kenya navy.
this is nonesense
KDF should ignore the guy and just do its job

@ countersniper, problem is kenya doesn't want to continue shouldering that aspect of the cost.ke was therefore petitioning the UN to include the maritime component under those whose bill is to be footed by UNSC.kwa UN ndio somalia sent a delegation to oppose it.

@ mogen have no idea what they are afraid of.must be intrested in some magendo business

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Re: Somali National Army (SNA)

Post  mchoraji on Thu Mar 07 2013, 08:13

At last the embargo is lifted.hope this doesn't take us back to the very un-stable days

The U.N. Security Council agreed on Wednesday to partially lift a decades-old arms embargo on Somalia for one year, allowing the government in Mogadishu to buy light weapons to strengthen its security forces to fight al Qaeda-linked Islamists.

The 15-member council unanimously adopted a British-drafted resolution that also renewed an African Union peacekeeping force for a year and reconfigured the U.N. mission in the Horn of Africa country.

Somalia's government had asked for the arms embargo to be removed entirely and the United States supported that, but other U.N. member states were wary about completely lifting the embargo on a country that is already awash with weapons, diplomats said.

"What we have tried to do is draw a balance between those who wanted an unrestricted lifting of the arms embargo and those who felt it was premature to lift the arms embargo," Britain's U.N. Ambassador Mark Lyall Grant told reporters. "It is a good and strong compromise."

The embargo on Somalia was imposed in 1992 to cut the flow of weapons to warlords, who a year earlier had ousted dictator Mohamed Siad Barre and plunged the country into civil war.

Somalia held its first vote since 1991 last year to elect a president and prime minister.

The Security Council resolution leaves in place a ban on surface-to-air missiles, large-caliber guns, howitzers, cannons and mortars as well as anti-tank guided weapons, mines and night vision weapon sights.

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Uganda to train, equip Somali military

Post  Olekoima on Thu Apr 11 2013, 15:30

http://www.monitor.co.ug/News/World/-Uganda-to-train--equip-Somali-military/-/688340/1745450/-/7h49xsz/-/index.html

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Somali Militias Fight in Kismayo

Post  Spartan on Sat Jun 08 2013, 16:31

I knew it was a matter of when, not if, militias would clash in Kismayo.

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Re: Somali National Army (SNA)

Post  countersniper on Sat Jun 08 2013, 17:23

Spartan wrote:I knew it was a matter of when, not if, militias would clash in Kismayo.

so has amisom or kdf gone to sleep?
why was uhuru meeting some prezy from somalia the other day? seems kenya is dropping the ball big on this one.
trouble lies ahead. much trouble. it would be a shame of kismayu becomes again the source of anarchy.
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000085512&story_title=18-dead-in-battle-over-somali-port-city

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Re: Somali National Army (SNA)

Post  proud kenyan on Sun Jun 09 2013, 14:38

countersniper wrote:
Spartan wrote:I knew it was a matter of when, not if, militias would clash in Kismayo.

so has amisom or kdf gone to sleep?
why was uhuru meeting some prezy from somalia the other day? seems kenya is dropping the ball big on this one.
trouble lies ahead. much trouble. it would be a shame of kismayu becomes again the source of anarchy.
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000085512&story_title=18-dead-in-battle-over-somali-port-city

methinks uhuru hasnt been very hard on the somalia prezzie and his team, hence the mchezo here and there on the chai town maneno..but with time it would be a clan fight, between the crazy town clan and chai town clan. only the uniforms know wat is happening out there, maybe an armwrestling-type kupimana nguvu thing,he who wins gets everything.maybe a breakup of somalia would be in the offing but only as a distant resort if things dont go as planned

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Re: Somali National Army (SNA)

Post  Olekoima on Thu Jul 04 2013, 12:41



Just been wondering whose fighter jet is this in Somalia? Looks more or less like a J-10.

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Re: Somali National Army (SNA)

Post  Spartan on Thu Jul 04 2013, 13:04

Olekoima wrote:

Just been wondering whose fighter jet is this in Somalia? Looks more or less like a J-10.

Photoshop!!! And a poor job at that. Someone combined a photo of a landing plane (which is funny considering where it was 'landing') with a picture from this BBC story. Probably a Shabaab propaganda picture.

See the original picture below

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Re: Somali National Army (SNA)

Post  Olekoima on Thu Jul 04 2013, 15:45

Spartan wrote:
Olekoima wrote:

Just been wondering whose fighter jet is this in Somalia? Looks more or less like a J-10.

Photoshop!!! And a poor job at that. Someone combined a photo of a landing plane (which is funny considering where it was 'landing') with a picture from this BBC story. Probably a Shabaab propaganda picture.

See the original picture below

Well, if you go to the net and search for Kismayo then click on the Images for Kismayo, you will get this photo.

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Re: Somali National Army (SNA)

Post  Spartan on Thu Jul 04 2013, 16:50

Olekoima wrote:

Well, if you go to the net and search for Kismayo then click on the Images for Kismayo, you will get this photo.[/quote]

Bro, I am not accusing you of anything, nothing like that. When you analyse its MD5 hash tag (metadata that identifies files), it takes you to the picture without the plane as the original.

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