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Re: Kenya Defence Force

Post  areba on Sat Nov 19 2011, 11:17

by the way, im trying to build a timeleine here, anyone with a moment, or any villager with IR cameras would help the unknoledgable public consume info and disinfo well.

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Re: Kenya Defence Force

Post  Guest on Sat Nov 19 2011, 11:44

areba wrote:by the way, im trying to build a timeleine here, anyone with a moment, or any villager with IR cameras would help the unknoledgable public consume info and disinfo well.

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Sort of an academic study of-sorts, Collins? This early? Come on Man! Postmortems are specifically ''after the fact'', no? I very humbly request, and am certain your brothers In-Theatre will appreciate very much, if you let this maneno slide kidogo for the duration of hostilities, buddy.

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Re: Kenya Defence Force

Post  areba on Sat Nov 19 2011, 15:55

ow? i was just aggregating media from all and sundry, thats bad? news reports, opinion pieces , video matter ... the kind... look again, unless that offers free tactical advantage to someone.. yes? no?

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Re: Kenya Defence Force

Post  Guest on Sat Nov 19 2011, 16:08

areba wrote:ow? i was just aggregating media from all and sundry, thats bad? news reports, opinion pieces , video matter ... the kind... look again, unless that offers free tactical advantage to someone.. yes? no?

Al-Shabaab is heavy all over social media. Very real risks of an aggregation, misinformation. And the MIC chaps are really switched on to that, you know Collins!! Just let this slide for the present, allow Mission Rigidity to establish. We shall analysis Operation Linda Inchi together for many years, and teach it in Military Schools for many more years!!

Chill, brother.

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Re: Kenya Defence Force

Post  Risasi on Sat Nov 19 2011, 16:53

The situation a bit tight Areba all ears are on the Web.







The MiCs are doing kind of digging around and keeping flag signs all over the field. But if you still insist Join Major E. Chirchir at tweeter and get it as it breaks. otherwise keep it as Nkarei says.

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Re: Kenya Defence Force

Post  countersniper on Sat Nov 19 2011, 17:19

ole Nkarei wrote:
areba wrote:ow? i was just aggregating media from all and sundry, thats bad? news reports, opinion pieces , video matter ... the kind... look again, unless that offers free tactical advantage to someone.. yes? no?

Al-Shabaab is heavy all over social media. Very real risks of an aggregation, misinformation. And the MIC chaps are really switched on to that, you know Collins!! Just let this slide for the present, allow Mission Rigidity to establish. We shall analysis Operation Linda Inchi together for many years, and teach it in Military Schools for many more years!!

Chill, brother.

in this regard there is this site kenya talks nipate.which has become a hotbed of anti KDF propaganda.
there are a number of people using the following handles



http://nipate.com/where-is-the-raping-and-looting-happening-t8415.html


1-RV PUNDIT
2-ATISHOTISH
3-TRV

who are writing material likely to be treasonable against KDF activities in who are carrying out the duty of defending our country.
can the MIC chaps seek out these unpatriotic kenyans and sort them out..especially the ones posting these blogs from within kenyan borders? i am simply sick of them.

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Re: Kenya Defence Force

Post  areba on Sat Nov 19 2011, 18:58

Risasi wrote:The MiCs are doing kind of digging around and keeping flag signs all over the field. But if you still insist Join Major E. Chirchir at tweeter and get it as it breaks. otherwise keep it as Nkarei says.

Hello risasi, guess i asked for a fly by and got it this morning, that big Heli with that thing on the side, the one i believe someone mentioned it to be an IR sensor of sorts. Id have taken out my camera but im always scared of pointing my camera and looking like someone with some bad, made in soviet republic equipment. so i was content with doing a baba wa taifa wave.... :-)

That major chirchir is one connected fellow, he looks it, feels it and im sure is hooked to the arteries of info. even responds to tweets in an instant...

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Re: Kenya Defence Force

Post  areba on Sat Nov 19 2011, 19:23

countersniper wrote:

1-RV PUNDIT
2-ATISHOTISH
3-TRV

who are writing material likely to be treasonable against KDF activities in who are carrying out the duty of defending our country.
can the MIC chaps seek out these unpatriotic kenyans and sort them out..especially the ones posting these blogs from within kenyan borders? i am simply sick of them.

@countersniper,
there used to be this swahili saying about empty containers and the loudest noise...

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Re: Kenya Defence Force

Post  Risasi on Sat Nov 19 2011, 19:45

Hey Hey Hey!!! Areba tafdhali just don,t do not at this moment and time esp. kula na macho tuu….Photographing any military equipment or institution will get you finger prints taken. Wee ji_enjoy to hapa with well managed info. Ji_enjoy at this time

some day ago by a one villager.



@countersniper don,t worry about those guys they are using counter Intel skills posting wrong info. deliberately to get out accurate info. Or attract Pro KDF fans to their website. don’t entertainment them.
The establishment of Nipate.com was a hot debt by me and the admin he could not verify the privacy on member, info like emails and the likes. revisit the debt at nairobichronicle.wordpress.com/2009/06/.../kenya-armed-forces-pix/
don’t entertainment them it will justify them. as long as they have no one to debt with they will keep quiet. Most this Blog member were once there.

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Re: Kenya Defence Force

Post  Guest on Sat Nov 19 2011, 21:58

Is this good for us?

http://www.ezega.com/News/NewsDetails.aspx?Page=heads&NewsID=3127

According to a Somali Government official, Ethiopian forces have started moving
across the border and the news has greatly upset the Somali president.

Any guess on how things will unfold?

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Re: Kenya Defence Force

Post  SS Jamuhuri on Sat Nov 19 2011, 22:10

Seems the Ethiopians have began entering Somalia with an aim of "creating humanitarian aid corridors" wont this make Kenyan forces unpopular for the locals might interpret this as a military collaboration within the two nations?

http://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idAFTRE7AI0RN20111119

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Re: Kenya Defence Force

Post  Guest on Sat Nov 19 2011, 22:47

SS Jamuhuri wrote:Seems the Ethiopians have began entering Somalia with an aim of "creating humanitarian aid corridors" wont this make Kenyan forces unpopular for the locals might interpret this as a military collaboration within the two nations?

http://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idAFTRE7AI0RN20111119
Not so, Jamuhuri. It is a two-sided sword this that we are welding diplomatically. Expanding the Mandate is intended to clarify the expressions of each Nation's self-interests vide Somalia, so as to preempt inadvertent clashes of the Various Forces in-theatre. But conversely it also heightens peculiar insecurities of Kenya / Ethiopia and results in such pre-emptive Ethiopian deployments such as effected today. KDF has moved too rapidlly and forcefully into Somalia and projected Force beyond the comprehension of Military Planners in our region - violently shuttering the previous facade of regional balance of power. Furthermore, we have been running ops inside Galmudug, upper Gedo and the Shabelle Valley for weeks now -- those are grazing grounds for the Ethiopians ever since their Somali Withdrawal. The on-going very frightening KDF reinforcement and increase of Force Capability in All of Juba, Lower Gedo, and extending in Hiran and other parts Kismayo has caused jitters in Addis, and hence the pre-emptive Ethiopian deployments now taking place. BUT It is not to take tactical positions against KDF nor even stretegic posturing - it is simply to push a big finger into the pie of the fast crumbling AS empire in Somalia and safeguard ''vital National Interests''. Were the Ethiopian deployment more ''muscular'' in numbers and equipment and philosophy, then I would worry. Rest easy Rwigi, Jamuhuri.

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Re: Kenya Defence Force

Post  one man army on Mon Nov 21 2011, 01:45

Just the other day before operation linda nchi,the underlying perception was that K.d.f was a career force very reluctant to fire a shot even under constant provocation.This has quickly changed.Now strategists in the region are wowed by the effectiveness and the firepower brought to bear against A.S. Quoting one Ugandan member of parliament Captain Michael Mukula, "Kenya has displayed that it is not a mere careerist.Its military hardware display inside Somalia has certainly raised eye blows among military strategists in the region." Remember we are not even talking about our Nora B52s,2s7 pions,bm 21s,OTO howitzers,t72s,vickers or any other heavy metal.Simply put,they havent even seen a fraction of it.They are running scared.
I believe it was Oleikoma who has always said that that poorer and much less advanced countries like Uganda,Ethiopia should not thumb their chest for having a few insignificant jets that have little chance of leaving ground when push came to shove.And am not talking about confrontation with Kenya coz thats very,very unlikely.What am saying is that one should not be branded week just because he avoids confrontation.The bottom line is that K.d.f is a very balanced force with necessary equipment to face any opponent conventional or not.Our army 50th cavarly battalion with its now 40+ attack choppers (more choppers than greater Eastern Africa combined) would obliterate the soviet era,museum lyric t55s and t62s in service around this region.Training,command and control,intel and reccon capabilities,discipline, just to name a few is what makes a fighting force effective and successful and thats what K.d.f is all about.Watch this space.we are all kenyan!


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KDF navy needs rebuilding from the ground up

Post  Al Bashir on Mon Nov 21 2011, 04:59

If true, this would be quite embarrassing. First there was an acknowledgment by the a senior officer that more than half of our navy officers cannot swim. Now there are reports that they got manhandled by ragtag A.S speed boats..


http://allafrica.com/stories/201111200160.html


According to Reuters:
http://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idAFTRE7AJ0IR20111120?pageNumber=3&virtualBrandChannel=0

In a day of skirmishes and counter-claims, Kenya denied a statement
from al Shabaab that it had set a Kenyan navy vessel ablaze by firing
rocket-propelled grenades from speed boats.


Somali government officials confirmed the sea engagement to
Reuters and said the Kenyan military had hit one al Shabaab boat, which
tallied with the rebel statement.


On land, Somali military officials said al Shabaab had ambushed a
joint Kenyan-Somali patrol near Dhobley in the Lower Juba region.


"During the clashes we killed four al Shabaab militants and
captured one of them alive," Abdikarim Ali Yusuf, a senior Somali
military officer, told Reuters.


Al Shabaab said it killed eight Kenyans in the fight.

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Re: Kenya Defence Force

Post  one man army on Mon Nov 21 2011, 08:46

I dont know who is posting all these crazy stories but the just concluded briefing plus the reports from embedded reporters said no Kenya navy ship has engaged or been engaged by A.S.
There will be too much propaganda you have to be careful what you hear.A.S thrives on propaganda.just the other day they made outrageous allegations that they had killed 150 amisom troops in one battle.Shit me!
Update as of yesterday nov 19th.As for Ethiopians,everybody knows they see this as an opportunity to neutralize threats to their own Government and we damn well know its not A.S

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=mNdKtqAlqS8

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Re: Kenya Defence Force

Post  jasiri on Mon Nov 21 2011, 10:06

You know our Navy is so tiny that if we lost one ship the whole country would know, we can't hide that. Speaking of SSM's ther's one in particular that has always tickled my fancy, the 9K720 ISKANDER http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9K720_Iskander

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IS ETHIOPIA OUT TO SABOTAGE KDF MISSION IN SOMALIA? LOOKS LIKE SO

Post  countersniper on Mon Nov 21 2011, 11:42

ole Nkarei wrote:
SS Jamuhuri wrote:Seems the Ethiopians have began entering Somalia with an aim of "creating humanitarian aid corridors" wont this make Kenyan forces unpopular for the locals might interpret this as a military collaboration within the two nations?

http://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idAFTRE7AI0RN20111119
Not so, Jamuhuri. It is a two-sided sword this that we are welding diplomatically. Expanding the Mandate is intended to clarify the expressions of each Nation's self-interests vide Somalia, so as to preempt inadvertent clashes of the Various Forces in-theatre. But conversely it also heightens peculiar insecurities of Kenya / Ethiopia and results in such pre-emptive Ethiopian deployments such as effected today. KDF has moved too rapidlly and forcefully into Somalia and projected Force beyond the comprehension of Military Planners in our region - violently shuttering the previous facade of regional balance of power. Furthermore, we have been running ops inside Galmudug, upper Gedo and the Shabelle Valley for weeks now -- those are grazing grounds for the Ethiopians ever since their Somali Withdrawal. The on-going very frightening KDF reinforcement and increase of Force Capability in All of Juba, Lower Gedo, and extending in Hiran and other parts Kismayo has caused jitters in Addis, and hence the pre-emptive Ethiopian deployments now taking place. BUT It is not to take tactical positions against KDF nor even stretegic posturing - it is simply to push a big finger into the pie of the fast crumbling AS empire in Somalia and safeguard ''vital National Interests''. Were the Ethiopian deployment more ''muscular'' in numbers and equipment and philosophy, then I would worry. Rest easy Rwigi, Jamuhuri.


http://nipate.com/ethiopia-going-to-somali-to-make-sure-kdf-kibaki-plan-don-t-work-t8461.html

i think the entry of ethiopia makes things very tricky. ole nkarei...please explain why now when they left in disgrace in 2009

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Re: Kenya Defence Force

Post  Guest on Mon Nov 21 2011, 12:51

countersniper wrote:]


http://nipate.com/ethiopia-going-to-somali-to-make-sure-kdf-kibaki-plan-don-t-work-t8461.html

i think the entry of ethiopia makes things very tricky. ole nkarei...please explain why now when they left in disgrace in 2009


Ethiopia entry is to ensure an ''Azania state'' has an Ethiopian counter-force to it, in this case Galmugdud and Upper Shbelle / Gedo – establishing sort of forward defense for Ethiopia that any Ogadeni-led anti-Ethiopia offensive is restricted inside Somalia and des not extend into the Ogaden Region in Ethiopia. That is their critical National Interest. Our is not that different, so we have some convergence of sorts with the Ethiopians. uganda is a stranger in this mix, their interest appears to rebuild their Force-Capabilities using AMISOM and the UN Mandate and financing.

As concerns those outlandish pronouncement on Nipate by Pundit and his ilk – just ignore them. Military commentary is nothing like the nonsense they usually purvey on Political issues. Believe me, there are a whole lot of EAC Military Planners in absolute panic / shock mode post-KDF entry into Somalia. Questions are – (1)why didn’t they know some of what they now know about KDF? (2) And because so little of the often ''rumoured'' Military Hardware / Assets of KDF have been displayed ( elements of the Rangers, some Air Cavalry, Army Armoured Recon Units, some Arty Batteries, Couple of Fast moving Planes and heavy lift Choppers) despite the thunderously overwhelming force projected thus far, where and what is the rest of it? (3) More important, could all those rumours of ‘’upgrades’’ of systems and equipment be after all true? (4) How to keep pace with this Kenyan monster-economy if it decides to get more robust in her Military Profile? Sleepless nights in Kampala, Khartoum, Addis, for a good many chaps in Uniform, I tell you.

Ethiopia will purge the AS from those Legions it has influence and interest, and help KDF to funnel the AS into enclaves from where it will be easy to exterminate these brigands. AMISOM might now be able to break out of the 20-20 acreage and fan out into upper Hiran to squeeze AS into the funnel created. This might well cut out possibilities of a drawn-out country-side asymmetric war. Certainly it will increase the implosion-rate of the AS even if from desertions of AS rank-and-file. It is good as long - as we all keep our greed in check and avoid inadvertent contacts with each other!! That is the devil in the detail, Countersniper.


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Re: Kenya Defence Force

Post  Al Bashir on Mon Nov 21 2011, 17:47

ole Nkarei wrote:
Questions are – (1)why didn’t they know some of what they now know about KDF? (2) And because so little of the often ''rumoured'' Military Hardware / Assets of KDF have been displayed ( elements of the Rangers, some Air Cavalry, Army Armoured Recon Units, some Arty Batteries, Couple of Fast moving Planes and heavy lift Choppers) despite the thunderously overwhelming force projected thus far, where and what is the rest of it? (3) More important, could all those rumours of ‘’upgrades’’ of systems and equipment be after all true? (4) How to keep pace with this Kenyan monster-economy if it decides to get more robust in her Military Profile? Sleepless nights in Kampala, Khartoum, Addis, for a good many chaps in Uniform, I tell you.

Quote from Ugandan MP Cpt. Michael Mukula

"In terms of big geo-political interests, Kenya has displayed that it is
not a mere careerist army. Its military hardware display inside Somalia
has certainly raised eyebrows among regional military strategists. With
help from France, the Kenyan navy will curtail tremendously the economy
of al-Shaabab and Somali pirates. The lucrative money network, which has
been fuelling al-Shabaab operations, will be dealt a hard blow."


So
other than the PUMA m26-15 MRAP's, M4's and upgraded MD-500's what
other hardware has been deployed into theater to cause so much anxiety
and talk? Could someone shed some light into this?

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Re: Kenya Defence Force

Post  mJESHI mMOJA on Mon Nov 21 2011, 20:43

@ Al Bashir aliye na macho haambiwi tazama bwana.!!!
@ livefire, mekatilili, bwanapesa, timoh, and the rest with less then 3 posts Come out the woods Guys, join in the party, share your opinions what so ever, which ever side they are or at least you can do is introduce yourselves. Not so?
http://eastafrican.userboard.net/memberlist

finally That UPDF Capt. has lost his jobs. who is he to correct his CIC?? or was is you Crane??


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Re: Kenya Defence Force

Post  SS Jamuhuri on Mon Nov 21 2011, 20:46

@ al bashir, its not what they see that sends down shivers down their spine, but its what they do not see and speculate about

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Re: Kenya Defence Force

Post  SS Jamuhuri on Mon Nov 21 2011, 20:51

"Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can?" Sun tzu... thats the principle i believe is shaking the whole region


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Re: Kenya Defence Force

Post  mekatilili on Mon Nov 21 2011, 22:03

mJESHI mMOJA wrote:@ Al Bashir aliye na macho haambiwi tazama bwana.!!!
@ livefire, mekatilili, bwanapesa, timoh, and the rest with less then 3 posts Come out the woods Guys, join in the party, share your opinions what so ever, which ever side they are or at least you can do is introduce yourselves. Not so?
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finally That UPDF Capt. has lost his jobs. who is he to correct his CIC?? or was is you Crane??

Hi everyone, I am excited about this lively discussion that is backed with logic and facts unlike most of the other forums where petty politics is the mainstay: jamii forums, mashada.....etc. I have been active on the former fending off some ludicrous individuals so my silence on this forum was so as I can familiarize myself with the goings on.

Regarding the operation, I am firm supporter not only due to the brazen attacks on Kenyan soil but also the geopolitics. This does not only serve as a deterrence but hopefully takes our military and national ambitions to the next stage. This is not just a war on Al Shabaab it is a war for Eastern Africa and Africa by extension and the end of this operation will mark the start of the scramble for Eastern Africa.

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Alleged photo of a burning Kenya navy ship hit by alshaba

Post  countersniper on Mon Nov 21 2011, 23:39

jasiri wrote:You know our Navy is so tiny that if we lost one ship the whole country would know, we can't hide that. Speaking of SSM's ther's one in particular that has always tickled my fancy, the 9K720 ISKANDER http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9K720_Iskander

what is this craft shown here burning? could it be some sort of supply vessel caught in this melee at sea?

http://nipate.com/al-shabab-destroy-bantu-warship-t8443-15.html

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Ugandas new sukhoi SU 30 crashlands at Entebe after undercarriage fails to deploy

Post  countersniper on Tue Nov 22 2011, 00:11

ole Nkarei wrote:
countersniper wrote:]


http://nipate.com/ethiopia-going-to-somali-to-make-sure-kdf-kibaki-plan-don-t-work-t8461.html

i think the entry of ethiopia makes things very tricky. ole nkarei...please explain why now when they left in disgrace in 2009


Ethiopia entry is to ensure an ''Azania state'' has an Ethiopian counter-force to it, in this case Galmugdud and Upper Shbelle / Gedo – establishing sort of forward defense for Ethiopia that any Ogadeni-led anti-Ethiopia offensive is restricted inside Somalia and des not extend into the Ogaden Region in Ethiopia. That is their critical National Interest. Our is not that different, so we have some convergence of sorts with the Ethiopians. uganda is a stranger in this mix, their interest appears to rebuild their Force-Capabilities using AMISOM and the UN Mandate and financing.

As concerns those outlandish pronouncement on Nipate by Pundit and his ilk – just ignore them. Military commentary is nothing like the nonsense they usually purvey on Political issues. Believe me, there are a whole lot of EAC Military Planners in absolute panic / shock mode post-KDF entry into Somalia. Questions are – (1)why didn’t they know some of what they now know about KDF? (2) And because so little of the often ''rumoured'' Military Hardware / Assets of KDF have been displayed ( elements of the Rangers, some Air Cavalry, Army Armoured Recon Units, some Arty Batteries, Couple of Fast moving Planes and heavy lift Choppers) despite the thunderously overwhelming force projected thus far, where and what is the rest of it? (3) More important, could all those rumours of ‘’upgrades’’ of systems and equipment be after all true? (4) How to keep pace with this Kenyan monster-economy if it decides to get more robust in her Military Profile? Sleepless nights in Kampala, Khartoum, Addis, for a good many chaps in Uniform, I tell you.

Ethiopia will purge the AS from those Legions it has influence and interest, and help KDF to funnel the AS into enclaves from where it will be easy to exterminate these brigands. AMISOM might now be able to break out of the 20-20 acreage and fan out into upper Hiran to squeeze AS into the funnel created. This might well cut out possibilities of a drawn-out country-side asymmetric war. Certainly it will increase the implosion-rate of the AS even if from desertions of AS rank-and-file. It is good as long - as we all keep our greed in check and avoid inadvertent contacts with each other!! That is the devil in the detail, Countersniper.


several international flights were diverted and denied landing permission and the airport turned into pitch darkness so that no one can see the unfolded disaster involving musevenis new expensive toys ,the SU 30 that crash landed at Entebe.
details are scanty but it seems this is yet another incident involving the new fighter jets while on training mission.
LAST month another one of these planes had its engines damaged after a bird was sucked in at the same airport causing the UPDF top brass to be very upset with the Uganda airports authority for failing to keep the airport environs clear of these flying birds menace.

http://www.monitor.co.ug/News/National/-/688334/1277094/-/bgqsv4z/-/index.html


UPDF plane crash lands at Entebbe airbase
By MARTIN SSEBUYIRA
Posted
Monday, November 21
2011 at
21:30
There was stampede at Entebbe airbase Monday evening when a plane crash- landed after the under-carriage (wheels) failed to deploy during a fly-testing run.
Witnesses said it was one of the newly acquired fighter jets but the army denied, saying it was different plane.
“This
was a four-seater plane, not the new jet and all passengers came out
alive. The pilot made a mistake during crash-landing stimulation
exercise but it’s in good condition,” the UPDF air force spokesperson,
Capt. Tabaro Kiconco said.
Witnesses said the crash caused big bang when it
touched ground before police fire brigade rushed to the scene to rescue
the situation.
“I was at Kigungu stage and heard a bang on the run
way prompting us to run and see what was happening. I then saw the jet
moving on its berry for some distance before it stopped,” the witness
said.
By 9pm it was still lying in the middle of the runway with airport staff and police fire brigade surrounding it.
UPDF Spokesperson Felix Kulayigye in a
statement sent at 9:30pm said the two pilots were unhurt. Unconfirmed
reports said some lights at the runway had been switched off and two
passenger flights of Kenya Airways and South Africa Airways could not
land

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Re: Kenya Defence Force

Post  Al Bashir on Tue Nov 22 2011, 01:58

countersniper wrote:
jasiri wrote:You know our Navy is so tiny that if we lost one ship the whole country would know, we can't hide that. Speaking of SSM's ther's one in particular that has always tickled my fancy, the 9K720 ISKANDER http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9K720_Iskander

what is this craft shown here burning? could it be some sort of supply vessel caught in this melee at sea?

http://nipate.com/al-shabab-destroy-bantu-warship-t8443-15.html


If this is what they claim to be a KDF vessel, then its BS. Kenya navy operates several RHIB's with stainless polished aluminium canopies. Take a look at the link below. The open canopy craft is definetily not kenya. why ride an open top boat to a war zone. It could be a Ras kamboni brigade craft.

http://beegeagle.wordpress.com/2011/09/28/kenya-navys-emerging-special-boat-unit-special-operations-forces/

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Who are these White Soldiers working with KDF?

Post  Guest on Tue Nov 22 2011, 07:20

I captured this image of KDF at the Dobley area from a Somali TV video.
You can see clearly that there is a white Soldier talking with a KDF soldier.

The question is who? I am tempted to say America or UK, but the gun he is holding is a AK 47.

Has Kenya hired mercenaries to do some of the dirty work?

Has it hired Blackwater private military??

Either way, someone must account for this white soldier and possibly many more in the KDF battlefront.



Here is the full video where i grabbed the image



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Re: Kenya Defence Force

Post  jasiri on Tue Nov 22 2011, 09:43

bwanapesa wrote:I captured this image of KDF at the Dobley area from a Somali TV video.
You can see clearly that there is a white Soldier talking with a KDF soldier.

The question is who? I am tempted to say America or UK, but the gun he is holding is a AK 47.

Has Kenya hired mercenaries to do some of the dirty work?

Has it hired Blackwater private military??

Either way, someone must account for this white soldier and possibly many more in the KDF battlefront.



Here is the full video where i grabbed the image



The KDF has several light skinned officers serving in it's ranks, Several Arabs(have you seen the commander of the Forces band?), a couple of Indians and definately you cant rule out the possibility of a few pointies(half-cast). I believe the KDF has enough capacity to operate without mercenaries and if lacking certainly not what looks like female mercs. please don't give crane BS fodder.

This war will give birth to several scenarios when it is over. 1. There'r will definately be an arms race now that guys have realised Kenya was using a bodyguard of lies all along. 2. The Kenya Navy will face an upgrade whether they like it or not, i think by now the kind of capacity boost i was barking about has been realised by the navy. 3. The Special Operations Forces of the KDF will be expanded and equipped with better toys, by now the brass has realised the worth this guys have as a force multiplier. 4. The KAF will acquire aircraft with more payload capacity and more capability for precision striking. We are on a roll guys.

I see the PRESS TV site has been blocked, hehehehe. Today they were reporting that on Monday Risasi and his folks killed 39 civies in an airstrike on training camps.

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Post  Guest on Tue Nov 22 2011, 09:47

@Bwanapesa – that is not very clever, and this is definitively NOT NIPATE where such half-batked nonsensical prosthesis are proferred as the main-meal of the blog. So, in your view, a white boy in Uniform holding rather clumsily an AK Rifle MUST be (a) American Army, (b) British Army, (c) KDF, (c) a dirty mercenary? What of the other possible permutations? - (i) M / O from any of our KDF Cross-training Outfits, (ii) private security Outfit hired by the Somali Delegation, (iii) M /A for the TFG forces, (iv) Mercenary for the TFG, (v) etc. etc.

Don’t couch this Anti-AS efforts with such silly insinuations that KDF is only showing class because there is a white man serving alongside it. We don’t have such an inferiority complex – we train with the best from these Nations and are as good (and better in some skills / areas) as they are. Next will be someone making ‘’’’intelligent efforts’’ to make this a Religious War, and after that a Bantu versus Caushite war.

Eeeisshhh!! Kenyans,Bana!!

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Post  Spartan on Tue Nov 22 2011, 10:37

mJESHI mMOJA wrote:That UPDF Capt. has lost his jobs. who is he to correct his CIC?? or was is you Crane??

Capt. Mike Mukula has never put on a UPDF uniform, or any army uniform for that matter. He is a retired civilian/commercial pilot. No UPDF officer mouthes off to the media as freely as you guys do it here.

ole Nkarei, on AMISOM moving out of Mogadishu, it will happen but its not as simple as you make it sound. They are constrained by the mandate/chapter 7 they are operating under. And of course they don't have the numbers to hold the ground they currently hold when they 'break out' as you put it. Moqadishu is a big city and situations can rapidly change. When you finally enter 'just' Afmadow, you will know what I am talking about.

When you are in a dancing competition, you wont win when half of the time you are looking at how well your competitor is dancing. You may trip yourself, you know. KDF has nothing to prove to anyone (may be to themselves, maybe), just do your job and take care of your interests.

In any case, Kenya should be wary of Ethiopia and not Uganda coz they have permanent interests(differing with Kenya's) in Somalia. And those disagreements will flare up once Al Shabaab is done with during the formation of a proper transitional government.

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