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Post  Sierra Kilo on Thu Dec 04 2014, 18:51

Does any one have info?
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Post  Interloper on Thu Dec 04 2014, 19:29

Sierra Kilo wrote:Does any one have info?
Hope you are ok @Risasi
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Post  mambotupu on Fri Dec 05 2014, 02:01

Sierra Kilo wrote:Does any one have info?


Pilot, may he R.I.P, condolences to the family

http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=171914


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kismayo crash

Post  Mkenya on Fri Dec 05 2014, 09:45

On Twitter @Daudoo: It's 15hrs since #KDF jet crashed in Dhaseg-wamo, wreckage of the jet & body of the pilot still there, KDF base 10km from z scene - Witness
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Post  Kobooz on Fri Dec 05 2014, 10:19

Fate of crew still unclear. Please let us wait for official statement.

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Post  timoh on Fri Dec 05 2014, 14:58

Interloper wrote:
Sierra Kilo wrote:Does any one have info?
Hope you are ok @Risasi
I hope Risasi is fine.
so is it a Jet or a rotor? mixed messages al sheitan claiming to burn the aircraft with pilot inside. God forbid.
Nice bombing raids lakini....rain hell on them and leak your success to the media sometimes, like Uncle Sam used to do in Afghanistan and Iraq. win hearts and minds
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Post  The Blue on Fri Dec 05 2014, 15:04

timoh wrote:
Interloper wrote:
Sierra Kilo wrote:Does any one have info?
Hope you are ok @Risasi
I hope Risasi is fine.
so is it a Jet or a rotor? mixed messages al sheitan claiming to burn the aircraft with pilot inside. God forbid.
Nice bombing raids lakini....rain hell on them and leak your success to the media sometimes, like Uncle Sam used to do in Afghanistan and Iraq. win hearts and minds

The value of the pilot to the Kebaabs propaganda machine would have been great, if they burned anything, it was the wreckage. Our brave Tiger is missing, I hope he is alive, we will find him or he will find us.

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Post  timoh on Fri Dec 05 2014, 15:14

http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Al-Shabaab-set-fire-on-crashed-fighter-jet--KDF-says/-/1056/2545606/-/j877qnz/-/index.html
pole KAF, godspeed to the pilot, we hope you ejected and finding your way home
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Post  Sayaret matkal on Sat Dec 06 2014, 03:21

The most sincere prayers of goodwill to the brave warrior and his family.
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Post  mambotupu on Sat Dec 06 2014, 04:08

mambotupu wrote:
Sierra Kilo wrote:Does any one have info?


Pilot, may he R.I.P, condolences to the family

http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=171914Upda
Updated news: still hope for pilot, search and rescue in progress

http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=171914

Story of AS "setting fire" to wreckages sounds phony? Why set fire when it could be used for propaganda? More likely KDF assets destroyed wreckage (less than 20 km from KDF Kismayo base) and S&R for ejected pilot.

Again if AS had pilot, we would have seen propaganda pictures. So still hope ...
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Post  Risasi on Sat Dec 06 2014, 07:23

thanks fellas i am ok all is well.

P/S
MI planting deceptive Info. all around  cause those buggers (AS) using civilian bystanders can,t  identify the make of the aircraft and  the where about of the crew/crews. the AS is trying to patch a picture from Social medias so as to forward a propaganda action. we will remain mam and deceptive till then.

rotary, fixed, jet, single/ multi crew let them tell us what aircraft they shot down.

to add on
we are professionals , we always fly above the range of their manipads 9K38 Igla  which has always frustrated them, they can never lock in our assets, we dive in at the speed of sound when its time to send them back to their Maker. the aircraft never went down/ brought  down around or in an enemy territory.
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Post  Interloper on Sat Dec 06 2014, 07:57

Risasi wrote:thanks fellas i am ok all is well.

P/S
MI planting deceptive Info. all around  cause those buggers (AS) using civilian bystanders can,t  identify the make of the aircraft and  the where about of the crew/crews. the AS is trying to patch a picture from Social medias so as to forward a propaganda action. we will remain mam and deceptive till then.

rotary, fixed, jet, single/ multi crew let them tell us what aircraft they shot down.

to add on
we are professionals , we always fly above the range of their manipads 9K38 Igla  which has always frustrated them, they can never lock in our assets, we dive in at the speed of sound when its time to send them back to their Maker. the aircraft never went down/ brought  down around or in an enemy territory.

Good to have you back Bulletman.

Wise as Serpents, hee hee
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Post  Analyst on Sat Dec 06 2014, 11:37

Risasi wrote:thanks fellas i am ok all is well.

P/S
MI planting deceptive Info. all around  cause those buggers (AS) using civilian bystanders can,t  identify the make of the aircraft and  the where about of the crew/crews. the AS is trying to patch a picture from Social medias so as to forward a propaganda action. we will remain mam and deceptive till then.

rotary, fixed, jet, single/ multi crew let them tell us what aircraft they shot down.

to add on
we are professionals , we always fly above the range of their manipads 9K38 Igla  which has always frustrated them, they can never lock in our assets, we dive in at the speed of sound when its time to send them back to their Maker. the aircraft never went down/ brought  down around or in an enemy territory.

The Al-Shabaab propaganda plan was fixed pretty well.

That pilot sacrificed so much that this country shall be forever in debt.

Araara was the next terror ops central command

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Post  Mkenya on Sun Dec 07 2014, 00:02

Analyst wrote:
Risasi wrote:thanks fellas i am ok all is well.

P/S
MI planting deceptive Info. all around  cause those buggers (AS) using civilian bystanders can,t  identify the make of the aircraft and  the where about of the crew/crews. the AS is trying to patch a picture from Social medias so as to forward a propaganda action. we will remain mam and deceptive till then.

rotary, fixed, jet, single/ multi crew let them tell us what aircraft they shot down.

to add on
we are professionals , we always fly above the range of their manipads 9K38 Igla  which has always frustrated them, they can never lock in our assets, we dive in at the speed of sound when its time to send them back to their Maker. the aircraft never went down/ brought  down around or in an enemy territory.

The Al-Shabaab propaganda plan was fixed pretty well.

That pilot sacrificed so much that this country shall be forever in debt.

Araara was the next terror ops central command
KOTs have put the pilot's picture,rank and a shell of a plane wreckage,talk about freedoms that compromise security so if anyone is looking for our hero they know how he looks lyk,name,rank and probably service no. simply becoz the @RobertAlais cant zip it.
I only hope and pray,we find this brother safe,sound to ashame the Kebabs.We need to step up game on policing our cyberspace,case and point the 36 chinese nabbed by police http://nairobinews.co.ke/police-arrest-36-chinese-nationals-with-sophisticated-communication-gadgets-in-runda/.Its only until a server they were using blew up causing a fire that led to subsequent arrests otherwise CCK couldn't pinpoint this buggers exact location.And why is Foreign Affairs/Chinese Embassy involved might be we busted a Chinese govt Op.We need to go Russian SORM or Chinese Golden Shield Project,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SORM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Shield_Project.I know NIS collects logs for all chatter fixed & GSM,ISP the latter started early 1999-2000 but more surveillance needed.
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Post  Risasi on Sun Dec 07 2014, 08:09

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Post  Kobooz on Sun Dec 07 2014, 08:49

Risasi wrote:

Risasi, this diffinately looks like a missing man formation. our thoughts & prayers are with the gallant star and family and hope for the best outcome. By the way, do you normally tuck a pistol and radio en-mission in case of the prevailing scenario?

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Post  Flying Crane on Sun Dec 07 2014, 15:14

not being malicious, Intel has it that the pilot was newly Muslim convert and was against killing fellow Muslim in Som.
 Could he have crashed the Million dollar jet + defected?
wherever he might have crashed , i don,t see any difficulties for a KDF rescue team locating and picking him up atleast in the last 72 hours.


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Post  Kobooz on Sun Dec 07 2014, 15:26

Flying Crane wrote:not being malicious, Intel has it that the pilot was newly Muslim convert and was against killing fellow Muslim in Som.
 Could he have crashed the Million dollar jet and defected?
wherever he might have crashed in Somali  that is , i don,t see any difficulties for a KDF rescue team in  picking him up atleast in the last 72 hours

In which case he would have defected before killing his new found friends

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Post  Flying Crane on Sun Dec 07 2014, 15:34

Kobooz wrote:
Flying Crane wrote:not being malicious, Intel has it that the pilot was newly Muslim convert and was against killing fellow Muslim in Som.
 Could he have crashed the Million dollar jet and defected?
wherever he might have crashed in Somali  that is , i don,t see any difficulties for a KDF rescue team in  picking him up atleast in the last 72 hours

In which case he would have defected before killing his new found friends
 shit happens in war zones.....killing of fellow Muslim, women and children or even places of worship  could cause a creeping in of guilt  after the mission and compromise his sober mood.
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Post  Ole Sidai on Sun Dec 07 2014, 15:45

Flying Crane wrote:
Kobooz wrote:
Flying Crane wrote:not being malicious, Intel has it that the pilot was newly Muslim convert and was against killing fellow Muslim in Som.
 Could he have crashed the Million dollar jet and defected?
wherever he might have crashed in Somali  that is , i don,t see any difficulties for a KDF rescue team in  picking him up atleast in the last 72 hours

In which case he would have defected before killing his new found friends
 shit happens in war zones.....killing of fellow Muslim, women and children or even places of worship  could cause a creeping in of guilt  after the mission and compromise his sober mood.
 And he becomes a target if he defects. But I highly doubt any Muslim and especially those serving would defect to support these criminals. AS, IS, BOKO and AQ are not Muslims. They are criminals using Religion and Faith to commit crimes.
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Major Otongo is Dead and we should respect him besides appreciate his sacrifice

Post  Analyst on Sun Dec 07 2014, 19:47

Flying Crane wrote:not being malicious, Intel has it that the pilot was newly Muslim convert and was against killing fellow Muslim in Som.
 Could he have crashed the Million dollar jet + defected?
wherever he might have crashed , i don,t see any difficulties for a KDF rescue team locating and picking him up atleast in the last 72 hours.

Let's end this with finality and a sober approach.

Risasi and any one in KDF can back me up on this one.

That Major Otongo died in the crash after he lost an engine as he made a turn to return home.

That he had just finished bombing an old Italian military compound recently turned into a logistics, weapons and ammo storage, and a foreign fighters training camp.

The target was at an area called Araara.

Major Otongo bombed the old Italian house and played the key role in killing of 89 Al-Shabaab militants mainly foreign fighters from Pakistani, Yemeni, and Britain.

Major Otongo made only one mistake, he returned to fire the last weapon at the banana plantation where Al-Shabaab was trying to bury the British thugs killed in the air raid.

That Major Otongo was one of the finest Kenya Defense Forces pilot.

His service to the great nation of Kenya and the sacrifice he made for this republic shall be celebrated and respected.

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Post  Observer on Sun Dec 07 2014, 19:56

Risasi wrote:
@Risasi..our condolences for the fallen braveheart and our prayers for his family...
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Post  Observer on Sun Dec 07 2014, 20:08

Analyst wrote:
Flying Crane wrote:not being malicious, Intel has it that the pilot was newly Muslim convert and was against killing fellow Muslim in Som.
 Could he have crashed the Million dollar jet + defected?
wherever he might have crashed , i don,t see any difficulties for a KDF rescue team locating and picking him up atleast in the last 72 hours.

Let's end this with finality and a sober approach.

Risasi and any one in KDF can back me up on this one.

That Major Otongo died in the crash after he lost an engine as he made a turn to return home.

That he had just finished bombing an old Italian military compound recently turned into a logistics, weapons and ammo storage, and a foreign fighters training camp.

The target was at an area called Araara.

Major Otongo bombed the old Italian house and played the key role in killing of 89 Al-Shabaab militants mainly foreign fighters from Pakistani, Yemeni, and Britain.

Major Otongo made only one mistake, he returned to fire the last weapon at the banana plantation where Al-Shabaab was trying to bury the British thugs killed in the air raid.

That Major Otongo was one of the finest Kenya Defense Forces pilot.

His service to the great nation of Kenya and the sacrifice he made for this republic shall be celebrated and respected.
@Analyst this account does provide some clarity amidst all the ongoing propaganda... There is also a serious context that is missing in the mainstream media, that we aren't just facing a rag tag clan militia, but an outfit and ideology that is greater than just Somalia and one that will require more resolve and determination...
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Post  Analyst on Sun Dec 07 2014, 20:35

Observer wrote:
Analyst wrote:
Flying Crane wrote:not being malicious, Intel has it that the pilot was newly Muslim convert and was against killing fellow Muslim in Som.
 Could he have crashed the Million dollar jet + defected?
wherever he might have crashed , i don,t see any difficulties for a KDF rescue team locating and picking him up atleast in the last 72 hours.

Let's end this with finality and a sober approach.

Risasi and any one in KDF can back me up on this one.

That Major Otongo died in the crash after he lost an engine as he made a turn to return home.

That he had just finished bombing an old Italian military compound recently turned into a logistics, weapons and ammo storage, and a foreign fighters training camp.

The target was at an area called Araara.

Major Otongo bombed the old Italian house and played the key role in killing of 89 Al-Shabaab militants mainly foreign fighters from Pakistani, Yemeni, and Britain.

Major Otongo made only one mistake, he returned to fire the last weapon at the banana plantation where Al-Shabaab was trying to bury the British thugs killed in the air raid.

That Major Otongo was one of the finest Kenya Defense Forces pilot.

His service to the great nation of Kenya and the sacrifice he made for this republic shall be celebrated and respected.
@Analyst this account does provide some clarity amidst all the ongoing propaganda... There is also a serious context that is missing in the mainstream media, that we aren't just facing a rag tag clan militia, but an outfit and ideology that is greater than just Somalia and one that will require more resolve and determination...
@Observer

Indeed mate....the ideology of terrorism has become entrenched in the society.

We are working round the clock to stymie Cyber Terrorism and Psychological warfare through the socio media.

Anyone who has studied intelligence well and capable of analyzing the current scenario in Kenya, we are losing the social-media and mainstream media to Al-Shabaab propaganda.

The terrorists versions of events is now misconstrued for truth while reliable and even government official statements rubbished.

A real strategy to bring sanity back and unify the society against the threat is critically urgent.

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Post  Flying Crane on Sun Dec 07 2014, 20:43

Observer wrote:
Analyst wrote:
Flying Crane wrote:not being malicious, Intel has it that the pilot was newly Muslim convert and was against killing fellow Muslim in Som.
 Could he have crashed the Million dollar jet + defected?
wherever he might have crashed , i don,t see any difficulties for a KDF rescue team locating and picking him up atleast in the last 72 hours.

Let's end this with finality and a sober approach.

Risasi and any one in KDF can back me up on this one.

That Major Otongo died in the crash after he lost an engine as he made a turn to return home.

That he had just finished bombing an old Italian military compound recently turned into a logistics, weapons and ammo storage, and a foreign fighters training camp.

The target was at an area called Araara.

Major Otongo bombed the old Italian house and played the key role in killing of 89 Al-Shabaab militants mainly foreign fighters from Pakistani, Yemeni, and Britain.

Major Otongo made only one mistake, he returned to fire the last weapon at the banana plantation where Al-Shabaab was trying to bury the British thugs killed in the air raid.

That Major Otongo was one of the finest Kenya Defense Forces pilot.

His service to the great nation of Kenya and the sacrifice he made for this republic shall be celebrated and respected.
@Analyst this account does provide some clarity amidst all the ongoing propaganda... There is also a serious context that is missing in the mainstream media, that we aren't just facing a rag tag clan militia, but an outfit and ideology that is greater than just Somalia and one that will require more resolve and determination...

ya the missing dead body or wreck which ever way you look at it from KDF or AS say a lot  in intel. the Kid will surface alive and its going to be a shocker.
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Post  mJESHI mMOJA on Sun Dec 07 2014, 20:55

@crane suppose that were to be his life saving alibi in the hand of the al shetan, "i am defected convert"  , dont you think you will be compromising his life a member of our AMISOM mission? risasi posted that the MI are play in or planting deceptive tactics info. lets wait bros
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Post  Flying Crane on Mon Dec 08 2014, 06:22

with all due respect wherever he and his cmate were booming , if you analysis the event  the wing-man or the second aircraft in the formation knew where his mate had bailed out and could have directed a rescue team to  the precious  location in minutes. but the fact that the pilot has been missing for 3 day speaks volume.
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Post  proud kenyan on Mon Dec 08 2014, 07:18

Analyst wrote:
Indeed mate....the ideology of terrorism has become entrenched in the society.

We are working round the clock to stymie Cyber Terrorism and Psychological warfare through the socio media.

Anyone who has studied intelligence well and capable of analyzing the current scenario in Kenya, we are losing the social-media and mainstream media to Al-Shabaab propaganda.

The terrorists versions of events is now misconstrued for truth while reliable and even government official statements rubbished.
When such items start appearing on international media,then the propaganda and with time the war would be lost...as the foreign cs i would have the media station's home country's ambassador in my office before it airs
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2864610/Inside-Kenyan-police-unit-accused-hunting-assassinating-terror-suspects-country-60-people-killed-two-separate-attacks.html

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Post  Kobooz on Mon Dec 08 2014, 11:15

proud kenyan wrote:
Analyst wrote:
Indeed mate....the ideology of terrorism has become entrenched in the society.

We are working round the clock to stymie Cyber Terrorism and Psychological warfare through the socio media.

Anyone who has studied intelligence well and capable of analyzing the current scenario in Kenya, we are losing the social-media and mainstream media to Al-Shabaab propaganda.

The terrorists versions of events is now misconstrued for truth while reliable and even government official statements rubbished.
When such items start appearing on international media,then the propaganda and with time the war would be lost...as the foreign cs i would have the media station's home country's ambassador in my office before it airs
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2864610/Inside-Kenyan-police-unit-accused-hunting-assassinating-terror-suspects-country-60-people-killed-two-separate-attacks.html

Besides corruption, we have lost the slightest sence of patriotism. How do security officers participate in such an interview?

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Post  Guest on Mon Dec 08 2014, 11:23

Kobooz wrote:
proud kenyan wrote:
Analyst wrote:
Indeed mate....the ideology of terrorism has become entrenched in the society.

We are working round the clock to stymie Cyber Terrorism and Psychological warfare through the socio media.

Anyone who has studied intelligence well and capable of analyzing the current scenario in Kenya, we are losing the social-media and mainstream media to Al-Shabaab propaganda.

The terrorists versions of events is now misconstrued for truth while reliable and even government official statements rubbished.
When such items start appearing on international media,then the propaganda and with time the war would be lost...as the foreign cs i would have the media station's home country's ambassador in my office before it airs
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2864610/Inside-Kenyan-police-unit-accused-hunting-assassinating-terror-suspects-country-60-people-killed-two-separate-attacks.html

Besides corruption, we have lost the slightest sence of patriotism. How do security officers participate in such an interview?







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