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Re: REGIONAL DISCUSSIONS:

Post  mogen on Thu Jan 30 2014, 05:13

Spartan wrote:... I shared here that UPDF is not in South Sudan to ensure a military solution but to encourage the signing of peace deal that will end hostilities. But should Machar think otherwise, in UPDF he has got a dedicated opponent.
Sparta Man

What you say makes sense, especially in view of the reports that President Museveni warned that if Machar failed to show up for the talks, he'd be disciplined.
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000101227&story_title=sumbeiywo-optimistic-that-president-kiir-and-machar-will-agree-to-dialogue

Question is: what sort of discipline would the old man be talking about?

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Re: REGIONAL DISCUSSIONS:

Post  jasiri on Thu Jan 30 2014, 12:07

Two very interesting things happened this week. Kiir released 7 detainees to the custody of U.K and Somalis (well, Jubalanders to be precise) conducted a massive demo in protest of the relocation of KDF Amisom component from Chismayo. All this points to one very comforting fact, IGAD has boldly taken control of the regions destiny. This is the only way Africa will be emancipated... ION, i quite like HaileMariam Desalegn. Astute fellow this one.

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Re: REGIONAL DISCUSSIONS:

Post  mchoraji on Thu Jan 30 2014, 12:56

jasiri wrote:Two very interesting things happened this week. Kiir released 7 detainees to the custody of U.K and Somalis (well, Jubalanders to be precise) conducted a massive demo in protest of the relocation of KDF Amisom component from Chismayo. All this points to one very comforting fact, IGAD  has boldly taken control of the regions destiny. This is the only way Africa will be emancipated... ION, i quite like HaileMariam Desalegn. Astute fellow this one.

Read this story & was happy that our troops are loved.shinda ingekuwa if they were rioting against our men.Glad KDF has done it's best to forge good relations.The federal govt. in mogandisho must have fought real hard to have the KDF contingent re-located.They've always felt they are an impediment to their designs

http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/article-153086/somalis-protest-removal-kdf-kismayu

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Chronolgy of Events - South Sudan

Post  Sierra Kilo on Thu Jan 30 2014, 22:03

Timeline of Recent Intra-Southern Sudan Conflict


June 2013—South Sudan President Salva Kiir orders the dismissal or forcible retirement of some 170 Sudan People’s Liberation Army (SPLA) top officers. Most had opposed the abandonment of their former Sudan People’s Liberation Movement-North (SPLM-N) comrades-in-arms. Kiir also deprives Vice-President Riek Machar of his interim powers, preventing him from assuming power if the presidency became vacant, and suspends two key ministers: Deng Alor, John Garang’s former right-hand man during the war years and later second vice-president of South Sudan, and Kosti Manibe, minister of finance and economic planning. Both are charged with corruption.
22 July—In contrast to previous official government statements, Riek Machar announces that the Southern government has decided to support the unilateral referendum on Abyei. The government immediately rescinds this statement.
23 July—Kiir fires Riek Machar along with the entire presidential cabinet. SPLM Secretary General Pagan Amum is also ‘temporarily suspended.’ Pagan had been the prime mover in the pipeline cut-off in January 2012 and is known as a hardliner against Khartoum.
Late July—Kiir suspends the governors of Lakes state, Chuol Tong Mayay, and Unity state, Taban Deng Gai, on charges of corruption. Mayay and Gai, as well as the ministers suspended in June, are high-ranking SPLM member engaged in various disputes with the president. Deng Alor is angry at Kiir’s ‘laissez-faire’ attitude on Abyei, Pagan Amum is hostile over the oil pipeline deal and at the abandonment of SPLM-North, and Taban Deng Gai is a supporter of Machar. All had announced their intentions to either stand against Kiir in the 2015 presidential elections or to support his opponent.
1 August—Kiir announces a new cabinet of technocrats without substantial political experience, and including well-known friends of Khartoum such as Telar Ring Deng, Riek Gai, and Abdallah Nhial Deng.
2 August—Kiir solemnly promises Khartoum to stop all aid to SPLM-North, which he has always denied providing.
7 August—A parliamentary vote rejects Kiir’s nomination of Telar Ring Deng, the best-known pro-Khartoum politician, as minister of justice, the first time this has ever occurred.
23 August—Salva appoints James Wani Igga, president of parliament, to the vice-presidency. He is confirmed three days later.
Late August and early September—Several meetings between the Sudanese National Intelligence and Security Services and South Sudan’s Secret Service take place in Khartoum. Former Secret Service boss Edward Lino, who with Machar had supported the Dinka-organized Abyei referendum, had been fired. The new Southern Secret Service is more accommodating to Kiir.
3 September–Kiir flies to Khartoum to finalize the agreement concerning the cutting off of support to the SPLM-N and to confirm the 27 September 2012 oil agreement.
11 September—The chairman of South Sudan’s Bureau of Statistics, Isaiah Chuol Aruai, declares that as long as his office has no money there will be no census and that, without a census, there can be no elections in 2015.
13 September—Kiir appoints rejected minister of justice appointee Telar Ring Deng to the post of special judiciary advisor.
November—Sudanese President Omar al Bashir flies to Juba to cement the final implementation of the 27 September 2012 oil agreement, demanding terms for the progressive pay-as-you-go disbursement of the USD 3 billion special compensation fund. The compensation money was included in the agreement but no timetable had been set for its disbursement. This new agreement raises the transit fee from some USD 10 to around USD 33 per barrel of crude transiting through the pipeline (the exact figure remains secret). By agreeing to this demand, Kiir gains a closer relation with Bashir but loses bargaining power.
6 December—The loose opposition comes together and holds a press conference to announce a large public rally on 13 December. The Catholic archbishop pleads with Machar and Rebecca Nyangdeng to wait and negotiate.
12 December—The rally is postponed for a week and a meeting of the SPLM National Liberation Council (NLC), the party’s highest decision-making body composed of about 150 SPLM leaders from across South Sudan, is called to discuss issues of leadership, the constitution, and codes of conduct.
13-14 December—The NLC meets but does not reach any conclusion on whether to approve the party’s draft documents, including the constitution, in their current form, and cannot reach an agreement to amend the existing documents.
15 December—The NLC meeting reconvenes but Kiir orders Major General Marial Ciennoung, commander of the presidential guards, to disarm the guards in the barracks at Bilpam. The Dinka elements are immediately and secretly re-armed, but the Nuer are not. Ciennoung’s second in command, a Nuer, physically assaults him, witnessed by the Nuer gaurds, who break into the armoury and re-arm themselves. The two groups clash.
16 December—Eleven senior government officials are arrested. These are: Majak d’Agoot, Oyai Deng Ajak, Deng Alor, Gier Chuang Aluong, Pagan Amum, Ezechiel Gatkwoth, Cirino Hiteng, John Luk Jok, Chol Tong Magay, Kosti Manibe, Madut Biar Yel. Machar flees northwards after fights in which all of his bodyguards were killed or captured (and later executed). Presidential guard recruits kill Nuer civilians in Juba over the next two days while Nuer insurgents kill smaller numbers of Dinka civilians in Bor town, where the SPLA 8th Division commander Peter Gadet, the former rebel commander tasked with suppressing David Yau Yau’s forces, re-joins the opposition.
18 December—Gadet takes control of the two main military camps of Pan Pandiar and Malual Chaat, Jonglei, capturing artillery and about thirty tanks in the process. Of his 13,000 troops, about 9,000 mostly Nuer join the mutiny and attack the quarters where Dinka soldiers were cantoned.
19 December—SPLA opposition forces kill two Indian UN peacekeepers in an attack on a United Nations compound in Akobo.
24 December—Pro-Kiir forces retake Bor, freeing a large number of IDPs who had taken refuge in the UNMISS compound. After Ugandan combat helicopters attack the town during the battle, the US Osprey helicopters that were trying to rescue displaced persons were fired upon by Gadet’s men, who mistook them for Ugandan crafts. Four US personnel are wounded in the incident. Further north, pro-Machar forces capture Malakal.
27 December—Ugandan Sukhoi Su-30 jets begin to bomb Bor in the hope of clearing it from former 8th Division soldiers, without much success. Using 23 mm guns, the SPLA opposition down two Mil Mi-24 combat helicopters that accompanied the jets. On the same day, at a meeting of the Intergovernmental Authority on Development (IGAD) in Nairobi, the mediation team orders Machar to come to the negotiation table within four days ‘or else the region would have to resort to other measures’, according to Ugandan President Museveni. Museveni continues to deny that his troops are engaged in combat in South Sudan, saying that the Ugandan People’s Defence Force (UPDF) has only limited forces in Juba, where they are tasked with evacuating Ugandan nationals from the country.
29 December—Pro-government forces reoccupy Malakal.
30 December— Pro-government forces re-take Bor.
31 December—Peace talks start in Addis Ababa but quickly hit a difficulty when Machar demands the immediate release of the detained former members of government.
1 January—Former SPLA forces loyal to Machar retake Bor and start marching down to Gemmeiza, said to be accompanied (or preceded) by 25,000 Nuer ‘White Army’ under their Prophet Dak Kueth. Most of this force withdraw eastwards from the battlefield while some 3,000-4,000 of its young men join Riek’s forces.
2 January—The conflict broadens considerably when pro-Kiir forces try to counter-attack but are defeated at Gemmeiza. The president, trying to gather more forces in Juba, asks garrisons from Nzara, Morobo, and Yeï to send men to the capital. Instead, most mutiny and join the rebellion, but in an uncoordinated way, notifying Machar only afterwards. Limited fighting develops in Maridi (the anti-Lord’s Resistance Army contingent coming from Nzara) and in Yei. Meanwhile, Equatorian politician Alfred Lado Gore, who had managed to flee Juba, starts to raise guerrillas among the Bari, the Madi, and the Pojulu.
4 January—A large SPLA column, accompanied by a river column along the Nile, leaves Juba for Bor. Both forces are ambushed at Pariak 35 km south of Bor. The result is a disaster for the governmental force: General Abraham Deng is killed and the column suffers heavy losses.
5 January—Ugandan President Museveni sends significant (2,500-5,000) reinforcements to South Sudan, still denying that he has any combat troops there. Some of these troops are involved in still another attempt at counter-attacking towards Bor but have to withdraw back to Juba after suffering fairly important losses. Following these successive government and UPDF defeats, by 7 January elements of Machar’s forces reach all the way south to Rejaf, just across the Nile from Juba. Meanwhile, the Central Equatorian oppostion take up positions directly south of the capital while Malakal is been retaken by pro-Machar forces.
7 January—Rebel leader David Yau Yau signs an armistice with the government while some of his men attack the eastern Lou Nuer areas now largely empty of White Army fighters after many joined Machar’s forces. Anti-Yau Yau Murle elders send a delegation to Addis Ababa in order to dissociate themselves from the former rebel now turned ally to Kiir. On the same day, Sudanese President Bashir arrives in Juba and declares that he is ready to negotiate the creation of a joint SPLA-Sudanese army force to secure the oilfields. The next day he denies having made this proposal; later his government renews the offer (18 January) before denying it again (20 January).
10 January—Central Equatoria Governor Martin Kenyi and the governors of Western and Eastern Equatoria meet and declare their unwavering support for Kiir. In parallel, they start recruiting local militias among the Mundari (Kenyi’s tribe) as well as among the locally displaced Dinka near Nimule. This is a countermeasure to Alfred Lado Gore’s anti-Kiir militias recruitment. Madi elders tried to proclaim their neutrality.
11 January—International envoys (IGAD, the European Union, and the United States) go to South Sudan to meet Machar, asking him to sign a cessation of hostilities declaration. He refuses as long as the eleven detainees are not freed; he also tightens his circle of forces around Juba after defeating another attempt of the government troops to retake Bor.
14 January—The Ugandan parliament tries to debate sending of new troops to South Sudan but is prevented from doing so by Defence Minister Crispus Kiyonga.
16 January—President Museveni finally admits the presence of Ugandan combat troops in South Sudan, just as UPDF reinforcements, supported by strong air cover (four helicopters and four jets), start to move north again, re-taking Bor on the afternoon of 18 January. Contrary to the government’s declaration, the force that re-took Bor included less that 20% SPLA troops, the rest being UPDF.
20 January—The government attacks Malakal with new troops from two different sides; Malik Agar’s SPLM-N troops (mainly Maban Muslims) from the north, and Johnson Olony’s South Sudan Democratic Movement/Army (SSDM/A) from the East. Nuer Acting Upper Nile Governor Garoth Gatkwoth is absent, having gone to the eastern counties to turn off the oil pipelines. The combined force of SPLM-N and SSDM/A retake Malakal, but not completely. There is still much fighting in and around the town, accompanied by civilian killings on both sides.
23 January—Cessation of hostilities agreement signed between the government and the opposition in Addis Ababa. Neither of the two key points being negotiated (the release of the eleven detainees in Juba and the evacuation of the Ugandan forces) receives any definitive resolution, both being treated as matters of ‘intention’.
24 January—Light skirmishes in Bor. Government troops attack from Bentiu and Malakal, pushing towards the oil-producing areas.
26 January—UPDF troops reach Malakal, causing serious concern both in Addis Ababa and Khartoum over Kampala’s ultimate strategic aims.
29 January—Seven of the eleven detainees—Deng Alor, Gier Chong Aluong, Cirino Hiteng, John Luk, Chol Tong Magay, Kosti Manibe, and Madut Biar Yel—are released with the support of Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta, who received them in Nairobi. Majak d’Agoot, Oyai Deng Ajak, Pagan Amum, and Ezekiel Gatkwoth, remain in South Sudanese custody. 
In Addis Ababa, Norwegian foreign minister Borge Brende calls on Uganda to begin to reduce and ultimately withdraw the UPDF from South Sudan.
Courtesy HSBA Updated 30 January 2014

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Re: REGIONAL DISCUSSIONS:

Post  GreyArea on Fri Jan 31 2014, 22:29

http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=162823


Any truth to this? The site I believe is editable by anyone just like Wikipedia....


"At least three jets of the Ugandan air force bombed the positions of the General Peter Gatdet Yak in Bor, the capital of Jonglei State on Saturday 21 December 2013.
According to unconfirmed reports, one or two of the fighter jets were shot down.
The fate of the pilots is unknown.
"

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Re: REGIONAL DISCUSSIONS:

Post  Spartan on Sun Feb 02 2014, 02:29

The stories above are from web sources, many of dubious credentials. For instance, UPDF hasn't lost a single craft in Sudan, neither jet nor chopper. According to Sierra Killo's source, HSBA I believe, UPDF lost three choppers but was able to raise another four to finally retake Bor! Question is, how many choppers do we have and how many have been committed to South Sudan? This is operational info so am not in a generous mood.

The authors seemed more intent on pointing out the shortcomings of Kiir and painting the UPDF as an army doomed to fail. What about the patients killed on their hospital beds by Riek Machar's brigands (they're not an army, just a lose coalition of Nuer and other Sudanese Luo tribes). And the hundreds of people who drowned trying to flee these murderous AK47-wielding tribesmen. Or the old people killed just for being Dinka. Not that the government's hands are clean but where is the objectivity in a statement like "Machar flees northwards after fights in which all of his bodyguards were killed or captured (and later executed). Presidential guard recruits kill Nuer civilians in Juba over the next two days while Nuer insurgents kill smaller numbers of Dinka civilians in Bor town"

Meanwhile, it's far easier to get pictures of rebel leader Riek Machar than to get one showing a wreckage of at least one of the UPDF aircraft shot down!! The following pictures were taken earlier today 1st Feb 2014

Riek Machar talking to Gen. Peter Kadet

Rebel commander Peter Gadet from upclose

Mealtime in Rebelville

Riek Machar and his bodyguard, whose guard is down going by his attire

This seems to be Riek Machar's favourite pause
Machar talking on what appears to be a satellite phone

Riek Machar with his wife Angelina Teny at a hideout somewhere in Jonglei State

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Re: REGIONAL DISCUSSIONS:

Post  mchoraji on Mon Feb 03 2014, 09:53

@ Spartan thanks for the pics.Isn't it really easy to trace Machar if he is even using his satellite phone?.I guess he is rather lax with his security or he believes no one in S.S has the capacity to take him out.

ION, check out this article  
http://standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000103807&story_title=two-police-officers-arrested-over-abduction-of-ethiopian-officials&pageNo=1

Seems that the Ethiopian intelligence officials inconjuction with elements of the kenya police abducted Ethiopian OLF rebels who were in Nrb on the invitation of the Kenyan govt. shouldn't these rebels have been provided with better security? Isn't it an open affront by the Ethiopians against their Kenyan allies??

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The International Institute for Strategic Studies

Post  Spartan on Wed Feb 05 2014, 21:52

The International Institute for Strategic Studies has just released the 2014 Military Balance. I've not laid my hands on it because, frankly, it's a subscription only publication which only academic types find it relevant.

But it would make for reflective reading nonetheless, so I intend to read it.

The reason I hate western-sponsored 'reports' is because they tend to present their findings as the unassailable truth. Donald Rumsfeld once said that "... there are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.
There are known unknowns; that is to say, there are things that we now know we don't know.
But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know don't know
." These 'experts' and academic types simply don't leave any allowance that they could have gotten something wrong. Good researchers point out areas where other researchers could explore etc. No, theirs is the Biblical truth.

For example, the map below on their supposedly site represents tank strengths around the world. If they don't know you bought tanks, you don't have those tanks!!

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Re: REGIONAL DISCUSSIONS:

Post  mchoraji on Thu Feb 06 2014, 08:36

Spartan wrote:For example, the map below on their supposedly site represents tank strengths around the world. If they don't know you bought tanks, you don't have those tanks!!

According to the report, only Uganda in the East African region has 100-1000 tanks.Kenya & Tz have 10-100 while Rwanda & Burundi hawana chochote.Isn't it strange that even Australia has 10-100 tanks while we all know it has been strengthening her defenses due to the dragon's threat.

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Re: REGIONAL DISCUSSIONS:

Post  Olekoima on Thu Feb 06 2014, 14:26

mchoraji wrote:
Spartan wrote:For example, the map below on their supposedly site represents tank strengths around the world. If they don't know you bought tanks, you don't have those tanks!!

According to the report, only Uganda in the East African region has 100-1000 tanks.Kenya & Tz have 10-100 while Rwanda & Burundi hawana chochote.Isn't it strange that even Australia has 10-100 tanks while we all know it has been strengthening her defenses due to the dragon's threat.
Look at Libya too. Isn't laughable that she is listed as having only 10-100 tanks? SIPRI doesn't know anything for sure.

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TANZANIA'S ENHANCED ROLE IN DRC

Post  mchoraji on Mon Feb 10 2014, 10:35

Is it true that Tz has been given the role of dealing with ADF-Nalu? @ Spartan?

http://www.mpekuzihuru.com/2014/02/jwtz-yapewa-jukumu-jipya-nchini-kongo.html

When will FARDC be able deal with it's s**t?

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Tz Ops Agains ADF-NALU

Post  Spartan on Mon Feb 10 2014, 19:41

TPDF is welcome to this party as far as we are concerned. As for FARDC, they will always be, well, FARDC. No more comments.

Meanwhile, the US wants Uganda to leave South Sudan. One wonders, are they paying attention to what's happening in C.A.R? Do they want the same to happen in South Sudan. Aren't agreements between two governments worth respecting, even if they're between two African governments? Do the Americans think they would be using Juba airport now if we hadn't gone in? Do they have to pronounce themselves on every issue?

This suggestion has been roundly dismissed.

The double standards on this deployment vis-a-viz the Somalia one hasn't gone unnoticed to many analytical minds. The US has interests in Somalia so its ok for Uganda to be there as long as our deployment meets American interests. But we should leave South Sudan because America has minimal interests there? Or do they?

The Americans will be forgiven because their government, frankly, is the most inept American government on foreign policy I've ever known. But the UN, they would have closed shop and left the South Sudanese to their devices if it weren't for our entry there! I am waiting to see whether the UN has any spine to stand up to this American helter-skelter foreign policy

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Re: REGIONAL DISCUSSIONS:

Post  proud kenyan on Mon Feb 10 2014, 22:48

Spartan wrote:TPDF is welcome to this party as far as we are concerned. As for FARDC, they will always be, well, FARDC. No more comments.

Meanwhile, the US wants Uganda to leave South Sudan. One wonders, are they paying attention to what's happening in C.A.R? Do they want the same to happen in South Sudan. Aren't agreements between two governments worth respecting, even if they're between two African governments? Do the Americans think they would be using Juba airport now if we hadn't gone in? Do they have to pronounce themselves on every issue?

This suggestion has been roundly dismissed.

The double standards on this deployment vis-a-viz the Somalia one hasn't gone unnoticed to many analytical minds. The US has interests in Somalia so its ok for Uganda to be there as long as our deployment meets American interests. But we should leave South Sudan because America has minimal interests there? Or do they?

The Americans will be forgiven because their government, frankly, is the most inept American government on foreign policy I've ever known. But the UN, they would have closed shop and left the South Sudanese to their devices if it weren't for our entry there! I am waiting to see whether the UN has any spine to stand up to this American helter-skelter foreign policy
All the best to TPDF in pursuing the ADF..previous pronouncements by the AWOL ON were that they are more of a threat than the M23,plus the UN(aka Americans) wanted to show their relevance in the region,though they were overshadowed by kenya's president (and most international "analysts" would still say the UN did more than the kenyana team). 
Americans have always wanted to be seen as the head of everything,the main voice of reason,the decision makers. the fact that they do not go after a political solution before a military one shows how poor strategists they are,i was actually expecting them to trash all efforts of IGAD in S.Sudan. maybe the fact that IGAD is not running to the UN requesting anything until they have tangible progress makes them afraid of being irrelevant in E.African affairs and conflicts

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KENBATT 22

Post  mchoraji on Wed Feb 26 2014, 11:20

http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2014/02/kenya-to-send-more-troops-to-south-sudan

So Kenya has had a battalion in S.S all this time.What have they been up to? I thought KDF was only deployed to get our people safely back home.Anyone seen them in the streets of Juba ama they've been kept in reserve as back-up should all else fail?
The following nations have pledged to provide troops in S.S; 
Algeria, Angola, Chad, Ethiopia, Guinea, Mauritania, South Africa, Tanzania & Uganda

http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/-countries-pledge-troops/-/1950946/2169344/-/format/xhtml/-/3kjn1r/-/index.html

This may be an indication that Kenya will also have boots on the ground which makes lots of sense considering Kenya & Ug have been the biggest economic beneficiaries of S.S's independence in the region.

S.A on it's part seems to have decided to project itself by involving it's troops in every single dispute in East & Central Africa

Meanwhile waiting for any announcements after today's visit to Juba by rais Kenyatta.Our regional leaders must be on top of the situation.


Pres. U. Kenyatta departing Nairobi for Juba 26-02-2014


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Re: REGIONAL DISCUSSIONS:

Post  mJESHI mMOJA on Wed Feb 26 2014, 13:06

Spartan wrote:

@aggressor one, flying crane and Spartan has the UPDF switched to the modern pixelated Camo?? if so congrats.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Camouflage_Pattern

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Global Firepower - 2014 World Military Strength Ranking

Post  Olekoima on Sun Mar 09 2014, 18:33

Here are the world rankings for 2014:-

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.asp


And these are the African rankings:-

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing-africa.asp

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Re: REGIONAL DISCUSSIONS:

Post  mchoraji on Mon Mar 10 2014, 11:16

Olekoima wrote:Here are the world rankings for 2014:-

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.asp


And these are the African rankings:-

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing-africa.asp

As we've always said about these rankings, they leave alot to be desired.When South Sudan is ranked just after Uganda when we all know without Ug's help they'd have been over-run by Machar, when TZ is ranked after Somalia.....there are questions that beg answers

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Re: REGIONAL DISCUSSIONS:

Post  Olekoima on Mon Mar 10 2014, 18:00

mchoraji wrote:
Olekoima wrote:Here are the world rankings for 2014:-

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.asp


And these are the African rankings:-

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing-africa.asp

As we've always said about these rankings, they leave alot to be desired.When South Sudan is ranked just after Uganda when we all know without Ug's help they'd have been over-run by Machar, when TZ is ranked after Somalia.....there are questions that beg answers
Oh yes, but they said they are fine tuning the list so i expect positions to change.

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Missing Malaysian 777

Post  mogen on Sat Mar 15 2014, 16:44

@RupertMurdoch, tweeted ‘‘World seems transfixed by 777 disappearance.  Maybe no crash but stolen, effectively hidden, perhaps in Northern Pakistan, like Bin Laden.’’

Strange things happen. Ati pilot switched off radar equipment, changed course and flew at 45000 get to avoid collision in the air. What was going on?

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Re: REGIONAL DISCUSSIONS:

Post  mogen on Sun Mar 16 2014, 14:37

mogen wrote:@RupertMurdoch, tweeted ‘‘World seems transfixed by 777 disappearance.  Maybe no crash but stolen, effectively hidden, perhaps in Northern Pakistan, like Bin Laden.’’

Strange things happen. Ati pilot switched off radar equipment, changed course and flew at 45000 get to avoid collision in the air. What was going on?
Did this Captain hijack his own plane?


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Regional Discussions

Post  proud kenyan on Thu Apr 17 2014, 11:45

With the ongoing confrontation between ukraine and russia,and their ongoing standoffs,is the delivery of any military stores affected,seeing that most of the machinery supplied is coming from/comes from that region?
Question to the insiders: is there some new equipment at archer's post (a certain merkava), if yes, are they direct replacements of the vickers or the T-72s

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Re: REGIONAL DISCUSSIONS:

Post  mchoraji on Thu Apr 17 2014, 16:17

proud kenyan wrote:With the ongoing confrontation between ukraine and russia,and their ongoing standoffs,is the delivery of any military stores affected,seeing that most of the machinery supplied is coming from/comes from that region?
Question to the insiders: is there some new equipment at archer's post (a certain merkava), if yes, are they direct replacements of the vickers or the T-72s

I also heard the fununu that a Merkava has landed in Samburu County.If so, it would be a replacement to the vickers not T-72s considering the performance of the latter two.I just hope it's not another un-verifiable rumour the kind we've had in the past

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SOUTH SUDAN

Post  mchoraji on Wed Apr 23 2014, 17:05

There are terrible photos in the web on the carnage taking place in S.S.Considering Kenya, Uganda & Rwanda have been forming a close economic partnership with S.S., is there a way that Rw & Ke can join Ug in putting an end to the madness? It's so sick to watch helplessly as the chaos go on.The oft quoted phrase ''African solutions to African problems'' should be put to use

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south sudan

Post  proud kenyan on Wed Apr 23 2014, 19:37

mchoraji wrote:There are terrible photos in the web on the carnage taking place in S.S.Considering Kenya, Uganda & Rwanda have been forming a close economic partnership with S.S., is there a way that Rw & Ke can join Ug in putting an end to the madness? It's so sick to watch helplessly as the chaos go on.The oft quoted phrase ''African solutions to African problems'' should be put to use

The recent twitter outburst from kenyans on what is happening in ssudan may just have given the government the freehand to drop troops into south sudan, possibly the 30th and 40th,maybe the vickers or chariots would see action along with some md 500. My only hard points are how to drop in battalion-size troops and their equipment stealthily (maybe under the guise of the extra 310 troops?) And their mandate..I believe the country's defence forces would have to be re-trained,so the mission would be quite extensive. The strategic movers might be provided by ugandans,maybe a wake-up call to the brass on need to have our own strategic lifters. As IGAD is the lead in s.sudan conflict,ethiopia would also get a piece of action

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Re: REGIONAL DISCUSSIONS:

Post  Sierra Kilo on Wed Apr 23 2014, 22:43

proud kenyan wrote:
mchoraji wrote:There are terrible photos in the web on the carnage taking place in S.S.Considering Kenya, Uganda & Rwanda have been forming a close economic partnership with S.S., is there a way that Rw & Ke can join Ug in putting an end to the madness? It's so sick to watch helplessly as the chaos go on.The oft quoted phrase ''African solutions to African problems'' should be put to use

The recent twitter outburst from kenyans on what is happening in ssudan may just have given the government the freehand to drop troops into south sudan, possibly the 30th and 40th,maybe the vickers or chariots would see action along with some md 500. My only hard points are how to drop in battalion-size troops and their equipment stealthily (maybe under the guise of the extra 310 troops?) And their mandate..I believe the country's defence forces would have to be re-trained,so the mission would be quite extensive. The strategic movers might be provided by ugandans,maybe a wake-up call to the brass on need to have our own strategic lifters. As IGAD is the lead in s.sudan conflict,ethiopia would also get a piece of action
I believe the answer to the SS conflict does not lie in escalating boots on the ground rather than a direct targeting of the main perpetrators. This can be by sanctioning their businesses and also their close associates. They have to be made aware that the days of rwanda type genocides are long gone and East Africans are not ready to stomach anymore civillian deaths in what is a political contest between Kiir and Machar. The KENBATT troops are part of the UNMISS peace keeping forces and will be based in the bahar al ghazal region which is currently not experiencing conflict.

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Re: REGIONAL DISCUSSIONS:

Post  proud kenyan on Thu Apr 24 2014, 00:34

Sierra Kilo wrote:
proud kenyan wrote:
mchoraji wrote:There are terrible photos in the web on the carnage taking place in S.S.Considering Kenya, Uganda & Rwanda have been forming a close economic partnership with S.S., is there a way that Rw & Ke can join Ug in putting an end to the madness? It's so sick to watch helplessly as the chaos go on.The oft quoted phrase ''African solutions to African problems'' should be put to use

The recent twitter outburst from kenyans on what is happening in ssudan may just have given the government the freehand to drop troops into south sudan, possibly the 30th and 40th,maybe the vickers or chariots would see action along with some md 500. My only hard points are how to drop in battalion-size troops and their equipment stealthily (maybe under the guise of the extra 310 troops?) And their mandate..I believe the country's defence forces would have to be re-trained,so the mission would be quite extensive. The strategic movers might be provided by ugandans,maybe a wake-up call to the brass on need to have our own strategic lifters. As IGAD is the lead in s.sudan conflict,ethiopia would also get a piece of action
I believe the answer to the SS conflict does not lie in escalating boots on the ground rather than a direct targeting of the main perpetrators. This can be by sanctioning their businesses and also their close associates. They have to be made aware that the days of rwanda type genocides are long gone and East Africans are not ready to stomach anymore civillian deaths in what is a political contest between Kiir and Machar. The KENBATT troops are part of the UNMISS peace keeping forces and will be based in the bahar al ghazal region which is currently not experiencing conflict.

To the contrary, the game has changed,after targetting of civilians,not even a month after an official apology was offered for the region doing nothing towards curtailing the genocide..that will change, IGAD will respond.expect depletion of rebel numbers via aerial bombings and combat. EA troops will deploy whether or not the UN approves the same. If this will also be a show to the world that africa can solve her own problems,hence less need for external,unsustainable and usually untenable solutions. Will the role of IGAD military be down to eliminating the rebels,and policing left to the UN(though a mostly african force)? Wapi insiders?

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anybody with more info about this?

Post  Guest on Mon May 05 2014, 04:26


http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article50856

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DRC and the minerals

Post  Kobooz on Wed Jun 11 2014, 23:18

Now in this case who is saying the truth? this is where one ole nkarei would have come in handy

http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/article-170794/congo-says-army-clashed-rwandan-troops-after-incursion



http://www.newtimes.co.rw/news/index.php?i=15750&a=77503/Rwanda-warns-DR Congo-against-further-hostilities

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Re: REGIONAL DISCUSSIONS:

Post  Cycoh 'DUDUS' on Thu Jun 12 2014, 23:21

Fellow bloggers, my sincere greetings to all of you are in-handy. Been long since I perused these pages. Vacations are hard to get & you downright got to stay in limbo irregardless. Lotsa touring all over Eastern Africa. Lessons learnt. Missed a lot from this side. Thanks men like Risasi for keeping it TEA. And life thrives on, just like the wind blows.

Kobooz wrote:Now in this case who is saying the truth? this is where one ole nkarei would have come in handy

http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/article-170794/congo-says-army-clashed-rwandan-troops-after-incursion



http://www.newtimes.co.rw/news/index.php?i=15750&a=77503/Rwanda-warns-DR Congo-against-further-hostilities

@Kobooz. We 'bout to get down this N/S Kivu maneno & see what Kagame & Kabila have on over. And yes, Kagame is a bright kid. Who would disagree to that?

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Regional countries up security spending over terror and wars

Post  Olekoima on Sun Jun 15 2014, 11:45

In Summary

  • Kenya, the biggest spender, increased its security budget by 24 per cent to $1.7 billion from last year’s $1.3 billion.
  • Uganda, Kenya, Rwanda and Burundi have troops in Somalia, South Sudan and the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC).

http://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/news/Regional-countries-up-security-spending-over-terror-and-wars/-/2558/2348440/-/9u1bdwz/-/index.html

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